Comments on: Some points about the UK Northern Soul scene and US soul music remade. http://wallofsound.wordpress.com/2007/12/12/some-points-about-the-uk-northern-soul-scene-and-us-soul-music-remade/ Stuff about music and culture Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:27:26 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: wallofsound http://wallofsound.wordpress.com/2007/12/12/some-points-about-the-uk-northern-soul-scene-and-us-soul-music-remade/#comment-328 wallofsound Sat, 29 Nov 2008 08:45:51 +0000 http://wallofsound.wordpress.com/2007/12/12/some-points-about-the-uk-northern-soul-scene-and-us-soul-music-remade/#comment-328 Thanks, Andy. I will follow up your suggestion to read your book. Thanks, Andy. I will follow up your suggestion to read your book.

]]> By: Andy Wilson http://wallofsound.wordpress.com/2007/12/12/some-points-about-the-uk-northern-soul-scene-and-us-soul-music-remade/#comment-327 Andy Wilson Sat, 29 Nov 2008 01:22:43 +0000 http://wallofsound.wordpress.com/2007/12/12/some-points-about-the-uk-northern-soul-scene-and-us-soul-music-remade/#comment-327 I should say, the book is available on Amazon for £21 (cost price). Sorry for the shameful plug - but it is much more about making it available at a lower price than the publishers astronomical RRP of £45! Also, the above should say 'main' link not only link... I should say, the book is available on Amazon for £21 (cost price). Sorry for the shameful plug – but it is much more about making it available at a lower price than the publishers astronomical RRP of £45!
Also, the above should say ‘main’ link not only link…

]]> By: Andy Wilson http://wallofsound.wordpress.com/2007/12/12/some-points-about-the-uk-northern-soul-scene-and-us-soul-music-remade/#comment-326 Andy Wilson Sat, 29 Nov 2008 01:11:04 +0000 http://wallofsound.wordpress.com/2007/12/12/some-points-about-the-uk-northern-soul-scene-and-us-soul-music-remade/#comment-326 I think you have it about right - the only link I could make was in the attraction the music had as a dance medium... though that is not to underplay the lyrical/emotional chord that struck the hearts of both the black American originators/consumers and the white British working classes (though clearly the Scene was always more cosmopolitan. I hope, if you read my book (Northern Soul: music drugs and subcultural identity) you will not need to take issue with this academic... I think you have it about right – the only link I could make was in the attraction the music had as a dance medium… though that is not to underplay the lyrical/emotional chord that struck the hearts of both the black American originators/consumers and the white British working classes (though clearly the Scene was always more cosmopolitan.
I hope, if you read my book (Northern Soul: music drugs and subcultural identity) you will not need to take issue with this academic…

]]> By: Soul Singer Ann Sexton Sings “You’re Losing Me” « The Delete Bin - music, culture, and random thoughts http://wallofsound.wordpress.com/2007/12/12/some-points-about-the-uk-northern-soul-scene-and-us-soul-music-remade/#comment-309 Soul Singer Ann Sexton Sings “You’re Losing Me” « The Delete Bin - music, culture, and random thoughts Sun, 09 Nov 2008 00:03:04 +0000 http://wallofsound.wordpress.com/2007/12/12/some-points-about-the-uk-northern-soul-scene-and-us-soul-music-remade/#comment-309 [...] sub-genres of classic soul music - Southern soul.  In Sexton’s case, her popularity in the 70s Northern Soul scene in Britain is kind of ironic.  Of course, that ‘North’ refers not to the Mason-Dixon line, but [...] [...] sub-genres of classic soul music – Southern soul.  In Sexton’s case, her popularity in the 70s Northern Soul scene in Britain is kind of ironic.  Of course, that ‘North’ refers not to the Mason-Dixon line, but [...]

]]> By: wallofsound http://wallofsound.wordpress.com/2007/12/12/some-points-about-the-uk-northern-soul-scene-and-us-soul-music-remade/#comment-259 wallofsound Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:25:29 +0000 http://wallofsound.wordpress.com/2007/12/12/some-points-about-the-uk-northern-soul-scene-and-us-soul-music-remade/#comment-259 Thanks for your comments Terry. I too love 'Just My Soul' (and BT Express). I think you are right about Funk and 70 soul being more popular in the south of England; of course that's what the Northern bit was supposed to signify. I grew up in the Midlands and enjoyed both scenes, and it was noticeable how different the two groups of people were. My black and Asian friends didn't like going to the Northern venues which tended to be mostly white, while funk clubs had mixed crowds, and as you said, often black DJs. I don't think that meant Northern clubs never changes; just did so differently. More recently Northern record collecting has become much closer to Funk. Just as in the 1980s many Northern DJs picked up Jazz Funk, in the late 1990s many Northern DJs started collecting funk. Keb Darge is the best example of the latter. Thanks for your comments Terry. I too love ‘Just My Soul’ (and BT Express). I think you are right about Funk and 70 soul being more popular in the south of England; of course that’s what the Northern bit was supposed to signify. I grew up in the Midlands and enjoyed both scenes, and it was noticeable how different the two groups of people were. My black and Asian friends didn’t like going to the Northern venues which tended to be mostly white, while funk clubs had mixed crowds, and as you said, often black DJs. I don’t think that meant Northern clubs never changes; just did so differently.

More recently Northern record collecting has become much closer to Funk. Just as in the 1980s many Northern DJs picked up Jazz Funk, in the late 1990s many Northern DJs started collecting funk. Keb Darge is the best example of the latter.

]]> By: terry http://wallofsound.wordpress.com/2007/12/12/some-points-about-the-uk-northern-soul-scene-and-us-soul-music-remade/#comment-258 terry Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:21:36 +0000 http://wallofsound.wordpress.com/2007/12/12/some-points-about-the-uk-northern-soul-scene-and-us-soul-music-remade/#comment-258 very interesting, i found this site whilst looking for the lyrics to "just my soul responding" to my ears, heart and mind one of the most wonderful and haunting songs i have ever heard. The genius of using a native american and the relationship that exists between their suffering and exploitation and sufferring of black america entwined in a protest song about war, poverty and who fights in wars was nothing but genius. When he sung at the Royal Albert Hall last year there certainly was violins I heard it first one Monday night on the Emperor Rossco show along with the BT Express "do it to your satisfied" My limited take on Northern Soul and soul and funk, aside from the poetry of Smokie. I used to go to the California Ball Room pretty much every Friday and Saturday, lied about my age at first to gain entry. The bands that played or the music of Brother Louie moved towards funk and jazz mixed with the soul of Philly. People that went to the Calli started to enjoy the jazz part of jazz funk and I believe became more knowledgeable about the origins of our music. I think funk was a southern thing and closer to the new black working class who were the DJ's and started the bands (central line, lynx, LOTW) Northern Soul stayed a Northern thing, and never grew or changed. However I think both genre's share the same longing and thirst for a wonderful ballad or song with a social content, let us not forget where Mick Hucknell first heard "money's to tight to mention". very interesting, i found this site whilst looking for the lyrics to “just my soul responding” to my ears, heart and mind one of the most wonderful and haunting songs i have ever heard. The genius of using a native american and the relationship that exists between their suffering and exploitation and sufferring of black america entwined in a protest song about war, poverty and who fights in wars was nothing but genius.

When he sung at the Royal Albert Hall last year there certainly was violins

I heard it first one Monday night on the Emperor Rossco show along with the BT Express “do it to your satisfied”

My limited take on Northern Soul and soul and funk, aside from the poetry of Smokie.

I used to go to the California Ball Room pretty much every Friday and Saturday, lied about my age at first to gain entry. The bands that played or the music of Brother Louie moved towards funk and jazz mixed with the soul of Philly.
People that went to the Calli started to enjoy the jazz part of jazz funk and I believe became more knowledgeable about the origins of our music.

I think funk was a southern thing and closer to the new black working class who were the DJ’s and started the bands (central line, lynx, LOTW)
Northern Soul stayed a Northern thing, and never grew or changed.

However I think both genre’s share the same longing and thirst for a wonderful ballad or song with a social content, let us not forget where Mick Hucknell first heard “money’s to tight to mention”.

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